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avva ([personal profile] avva) wrote2001-07-04 06:28 pm

индра!

Я подписан на рассылку, посвящённую санскриту. Санскрит я на самом деле не знаю совсем (пытался начать учить, забросил покамест), но с рассылки не отписался. И вот сейчас подумал, что и неплохо, что не отписался, и всем советую записаться. Действительно, как здорово, когда приходит, например, такое:


Subject: Rgveda 1.63.2
aa yad dharii indra vivrataa ver aa te vajraM jaritaa baahvor dhaat
yena aviharyyatakrato amitraan pura iSNaasi puruhuuta puurviiH


indra! When you drive your two horses that run in various courses, then
he who praises [you] places the thunderbolt in your hands, with which you,
O you of works [so] desired [by us], strike the foemen and their lofty
cities, O you who are called on by many!

Как раз с таких слов и надо начинать день - хорошее настроение обеспечено. aviharyyatakrato, indeed!
(это там некий энтузиаст каждый божий день присылает перевод одного стиха из Риг-Веды. Ни дня, типа, без строчки).

[identity profile] mikhael.livejournal.com 2001-07-04 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
Gotov posporit' chot kak minimum odno slovo na sanskrite ty znaesh :-)
Znaesh kak "dom" na sanskrite ?

[identity profile] avva.livejournal.com 2001-07-04 08:44 am (UTC)(link)
Íåò. Íî òû íå òîìè, à ñðàçó ãîâîðè. Ðåæèì çàãàäîê/îòãàäîê â ÆÆ ïëîõî ðàáîòàåò.

íå ñàíñêðèò ýòî, î ïûòëèâûé îòðîê!

(Anonymous) 2001-07-04 09:13 am (UTC)(link)
à Vedic (êîòîðûé áûë ðàíüøå ëåò íà 1200). Ìîæåøü íàïðèìåð ïî÷èòàòü Åëèçàðåíêîâó.

OK, here my slow Russian typing starts to get on my nerves... so English. The words look weird because of a certain phonological convention, i.e that all the long vowels are written as vv (thus yy for ý in aviharýatakrato) , and nasals, sonants and other letters requiring diacritical marks are written in CAPS. This is to ensure that people who do not see encodings will be able to read this text. Looks ridiculous, if you ask me.

By the way, in Homeros compound words are equally long.

Re: íå ñàíñêðèò ýòî, î ïûòëèâûé îòðîê!

(Anonymous) 2001-07-04 09:13 am (UTC)(link)
Forgot to sign, but of course it is just me.

Renee

Re: íå ñàíñêðèò ýòî, î ïûòëèâûé îòðîê!

[identity profile] avva.livejournal.com 2001-07-04 09:16 am (UTC)(link)
ß çíàþ ;) Íà òî îíà è Ðèã-Âåäà, ïðàâäà?
Âñ¸ æå ýòîò ÿçûê òîæå íàçûâàþò ñàíñêðèòîì, èëè âåäè÷åñêèì ñàíñêðèòîì (â îòëè÷èå îò êëàññè÷åñêîãî).

Re: íå ñàíñêðèò ýòî, î ïûòëèâûé îòðîê!

(Anonymous) 2001-07-04 09:26 am (UTC)(link)
Vedic Sanskrit, yes... just Sanskrit-no! It's not the same language, believe me...try to translate this stanza with a Sanskrit dictionary, if you need proof. I haven't met 'Sanskrit' referring to Vedic in professional literature, maybe only in 19th century grammars, although I'm not sure. Elisarenkova, who is Russia's number 1 specialist in Rig-Veda, caled her grammar 'Vediyskii Yazyk'.

Brrr... I should definitely learn to type Russian. Shame on me!

BTW the name Sanskrit was invented by Indian grammarians and it means 'well made'. They meant classical Sanskrit.

Btw, I want to subscribe, would you please give me the URL?

Renee

Re: íå ñàíñêðèò ýòî, î ïûòëèâûé îòðîê!

[identity profile] avva.livejournal.com 2001-07-04 09:33 am (UTC)(link)
Âîò çäåñü åñòü èíñòðóêöèè:

http://www.alkhemy.com/sanskrit/atul/net-resources.html

Íî ñåé÷àñ íà ðàññûëêå ïî÷òè íèêàêîãî îáùåíèÿ íåò, êðîìå ýòèõ äíåâíûõ ðèãâåäîâûõ ïåðåâîäîâ.

thanks :)

(Anonymous) 2001-07-04 09:44 am (UTC)(link)
îíè-òî ìåíÿ è èíòåðåñóþò.