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По телевизору (вторая израильская программа) только что начался "Рассекая волны" фон Триера.

Боже мой, какая же это все-таки нестерпимая гадость.

Ну и ладно, а мы пойдем в кино.

breaking the waves - ãàäîñòü?

Date: 2001-06-01 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anna-from-pa.livejournal.com
âïåðâûå ñëûøó òàêîé íåãàòèâíûé êîììåíòàðèé ïî ïîâîäó ôèëüìà breaking the waves. à äðóãèå ôèëüìû ôîí òðèåðà âàì òàê æå ñèëüíî íå íðàâÿòñÿ?

Re: breaking the waves - ãàäîñòü?

Date: 2001-06-01 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avva.livejournal.com
Ìíå òàê íå ïîíðàâèëñÿ "Ðàññåêàÿ âîëíû", ÷òî ÿ èçáåãàë âñå ôîí Òðèåðà ñ òåõ ïîð. Õîòÿ ÿ ñîáèðàþñü ïîñìîòðåòü Dancer in the Dark â áëèæàéøåì áóäóùåì, just to give him another chance.

Âîò îòðûâîê èç ïèñüìà â íüþñãðóïïó, êîòîðîå ÿ ïîñëàë ãäå-òî ãîä íàçàä, ãäå ÿ ïûòàëñÿ îáúÿñíèòü ïî÷åìó ÿ î÷åíü íå ëþáëþ ýòîò ôèëüì (è Ôàóëçà, òàì êàê ðàç èõ ñðàâíèâàëè ïî÷åìó-òî):

>So what exactly are those vague reasons for disliking both Fowles
>and...that director? I hate their smugness, preachiness, and
>condescension.

All of this, plus unbearably stereotypical in-your-face psychologism
and symbolism. For instance, the church bells at the end of "Breaking the
Waves" come to mind - a disgraceful ending of a disgraceful film. Fowles
manages to be more trite yet on the pages of "The Collector".

And I really hate this "watch me make you swallow this completely unconvincing
load of melodramatic crap because I can make it just artsy enough"
attitude
of theirs.

Just had a look at the newsgroups reviews of "Breaking the Waves"
(conviniently linked from the film's page at IMDB). Among endless
gushing, I found one review which said some things better than I did.
Thank you, Dave Cowen. Read the whole thing at
http://us.imdb.com/Reviews/64/6451 or some excerpts below:


Von Trier doesn't show up at the end
of BREAKING THE WAVES, but I envision him standing there, chortling to
himself: with this new film, Von Trier has created a completely
indefensible, illogical and incredibly badly shot video which through
the assistance of art-film cliches, overacting and an strangely
audience-pleasing ending is playing in movie theaters to four-star
reviews around the world. If you see BREAKING THE WAVES and enjoy it,
you're being mocked. If you've seen BREAKING THE WAVES and disliked
it, you've wasted your money. Both ways, it's not worth seeing under
any circumstance.

[...]

Emily Watson's performance as the dim Bess has been universally
praised for the simple reason that Watson takes very basic emotions
and projects them for miles, turning a smile into a full-blown
wide-eyed gape and a frown into a shreiking fit of self-loathing. Her
performance is so ridiculously overstated that it's difficult to give
her character any credulity: one thinks while watching the film not so
much about what her character is feeling, but how hard Watson is
trying to project the raw emotions that the character is supposed to
be showing.

[...]

This is sleazy, sleazy stuff here.


Date: 2001-06-01 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 868.livejournal.com
íå çíàþ, íî ñåðèàë Riget (êîðîëåâñòâî), ïåðâûå ïÿòü ñåðèé è ïðîäîëæåíèå - ýòî î÷åíü çäîðîâî. Ñ ïåðâûõ æå êàäðîâ íå ìîã îòîðâàòüñÿ îò ýêðàíà. Åùå ó íåãî åñòü ôèëüì Åâðîïà ïðî âåðâîëüôîâ è ïîðÿäî÷íûõ ñ òî÷êè çðåíèÿ àâòîðà ãåðîåâ, êîí÷àþùèõ ñîáîé èç çà òîãî, ÷òî èì ïðèøëîñü ñîòðóäíè÷àòü ñ àìåðèêàíñêèìè îêêóïàíòàìè

Re: breaking the waves - ãàäîñòü?

Date: 2001-06-01 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Íó, îí âîîáùå-òî ðàçíûé. È "Öåíòðîïó" íå ñìîòðåëè? Íó è çðÿ. Âîò ÷òî íå ñìîã äîñìîòðåòü äî êîíöà - ýòî "Èäèîòîâ". À ñ "Ðàññåêàÿ âîëíû", êàæåòñÿ ìíå, ÷òî ïîñêðåáëè Âû ïî ïîâåðõíîñòè. Íî óæ î âêóñàõ íå ñïîðÿò...

Re: Idiots

Date: 2001-06-01 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anna-from-pa.livejournal.com
I loved "The Idiots". it had it all, cinamatography and a message. perhaps, the message was criptic. or not, not sure. i've seen three of lars von trier films so far and i say, "yes, lars von trier is great. this kind of film making i can embrace and his films i can relate to on any level"

the adjectives that come into my mind are: intense, honest, into your face, raw, passionate, genuine, real, not contrived.

however it's amazing to see that someone disagrees and has a totally opposite opinion.

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