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Date: 2004-05-12 10:37 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-05-12 10:39 am (UTC)Хотя все понять все-таки все равно всегда хочется...
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Date: 2004-05-12 10:40 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-05-12 10:43 am (UTC)А о чем ты говорил, хотелось бы понять правильно все-таки?
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Date: 2004-05-12 10:50 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-05-12 10:58 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-05-12 10:44 am (UTC)Аналогично...
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Date: 2004-05-12 01:26 pm (UTC)no subject
Познания умножив, множу жути.
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Не буду
Date: 2004-05-12 10:54 am (UTC)Re: Не буду
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Date: 2004-05-12 10:55 am (UTC)Я это дело проигнорировал. Смотреть такие вещи - это следовать заранее для тебя проложеному пути тех, кто это дело снимал. Я вот только одно не понимаю - если они такие смелые, зачем им маски?
А мне другое интересно, сколько времени пройдет перед тем как поползут слухи - что это работа каких-небудь пехотинцев?
uzhe :(((
Date: 2004-05-12 11:07 am (UTC)brrr
SG
Re: uzhe :(((
Date: 2004-05-12 11:15 am (UTC)Да вы правы, я так и думал, что это появится после того сообщения о том что его держали военные, якобы расследуя его деятельность в стране.
Кстати, очень интерестная статья в тему событий:
http://www.guerrillanews.com/human_rights/doc4466.html
НЕ про Берга, правда.
Re: uzhe :(((
Date: 2004-05-12 11:32 am (UTC)Re: uzhe :(((
Date: 2004-05-12 11:52 am (UTC)http://www.guerrillanews.com/forum/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=conspiracy&Number=296362&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&part=
оттуда ->
http://www.infowars.com/print/iraq/berg.htm
http://www.breakfornews.com/NickBergEnemiesList.htm
А вам не кажется,
Date: 2004-05-12 10:59 am (UTC)Re: А вам не кажется,
Date: 2004-05-12 11:03 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-05-12 11:07 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2004-05-12 02:16 pm (UTC)Спасибо.
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Date: 2004-05-12 06:05 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-05-12 06:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-05-12 04:11 pm (UTC)May be not so clear-cut a case, after all
Date: 2004-05-12 04:17 pm (UTC)regarding U.S. torture of Iraqis
2) CNN poll question: "Is the Berg killing a reason for withholding any
remaining Iraq prisoner abuse pictures?" Bush has been reported to be
struggling with question of whether Pentagon should release additional
torture photos. Given that the alleged decapitation of Berg was allegedly
prompted by the first wave of torture photos, Bush could now cite "national
security" issues for witholding additional materials.
3) Berg's last known whereabouts was in U.S. custody.
4) Berg shown in video wearing orange jumpsuit known to be of U.S. issue
(compare with pictures at Guantanamo).
5) Berg mysteriously captured by Al-Quaeda (still wearing jumpsuit). Either
he escaped from U.S. captors or U.S. let him out -- with orange suit and
all -- to be immediately apprehended by Al-Quaeda (before he had a chance to
change).
6) Tape obviously spliced together and heavily edited. Goes from a) Berg
sitting in chair talking about family, to b) Berg sitting on floor with
hooded "militants" behind, to c) blurry camera movement, to d) almost
motionless Berg on floor as head cut off.
7) Audio clearly dubbed in.
8) "Arab" reader flips through pages of "statement" and keeps ending up on
the same page. Perhaps doesn't even known enough Arabic to recognize what
page he's on?
9) "Arabs" have lily-white hands and (other exposed) skin.
10) "Arabs" have Western-style body posture and mannerisms.
11) When Berg decapitated, there was almost no blood. If Berg were still
alive at this point, with the cut starting at front of throat, blood would
have been spraying everywhere. Berg's severed head, the floor, Berg's
clothes, and even the hand of the "Arab" who decapitated Berg had no visible
blood on it.
12) Berg's body didn't move while on the ground. Although held down, Berg
would have tried to instinctively wiggle and writhe away from captor's grip.
13) Camera angle made it impossible to see if Berg's eyes were even open.
14) Alleged "scream" from Berg sounded to be that of a woman and was clearly
dubbed in.
15) Berg goes to great trouble to identify himself, providing information
about his family. Why? To elicit greater sympathy? Or to provide a
positive ID. FBI visited Berg family in an attempt to "verify his
identity". Guy in video looks very little like Berg photos provided by
family.
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Date: 2004-05-12 04:21 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-05-13 08:03 am (UTC)Conspiracy theories
Date: 2004-05-13 05:01 am (UTC)Eti teorii ochen' horoshi tem, chto ih raspotraniteli srazu ubivajut 2-h zajcev - dlja odnogo kruga sebja otbelit', dlja svoih - luchshaja propaganda "activnogo reshenia problemy". Vse oficial'nye musul'manskie sajty "proklinajut terrorism". Posle chego sleduet srazu: 1) palestinskie samoubijcy - ne terroristy, a borcy za svobodu, 2) 9/11 ustroili sami zhe Amerikano-Evrei ("da ona sama sebja vysekla"). Posle chego proklinat' nikogo konkretno ne prihoditsja, no zato lico sohranili. A kakie terroristy eshche ostajutsja togda? Baski, irlandskie - oni vse tozhe okazyvajutsja borcami za svobodu!!! Terroristami ostajutsja v etoj schitalochke te, kto s terrorizmom boretsja. Vot vam i smysl etih "conspiracy theories".