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Древнееврейские боевые искусства:



(можно нажать на картинку)

За ссылку спасибо [livejournal.com profile] shufel'ю.

Date: 2004-07-29 07:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annyway.livejournal.com
А на пейсах еще такие остренькие металлические наконечники должны быть.

Date: 2004-07-29 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zurafa.livejournal.com
у него уже в шляпу вмонтирован свинцовый диск ;-)

Date: 2004-07-29 10:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annyway.livejournal.com
Полезных вещей лишними не бывают.

Date: 2004-07-29 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sirin.livejournal.com
правильно мыслишь, только у них там простые свинцовые шарики.
а видела бы ты настоящую хасидскую боевую ору!

Date: 2004-07-29 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annyway.livejournal.com
Знаешь, я, кажется, представляю. ;)

Date: 2004-07-29 07:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acekievua.livejournal.com
отличная фотка :)))

Date: 2004-07-29 08:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 0qwerty0.livejournal.com
"We are a people like any other, and we have our portion of fools, thievs" - and martial arts, apparently.

Date: 2004-07-29 08:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 0qwerty0.livejournal.com
Actually, what I think he's teaching is some flavor of Kook-Sul-Won.

Date: 2004-07-29 08:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monomyth.livejournal.com
It's a popular trend to "restore" forgoten using eastern styles.
As an example:
http://www.completemartialarts.com/whoswho/halloffame/yuriykostrov.htm
From: (Anonymous)
That is a natural thought regarding Abir when one has no concept of what either styles are.Both systems are very diverse and rich.Both have entirely different curriculums though.The Abir system is entirely based on assuming the forms of Hebrew letters.Abir uses these forms to teach seven forms of attack using each letter of the 22 Hebrew letters.The 12 tribes of Israel are used in dance forms/steps with half of them being fighting animals and the other used as symbols for motion,spaciality and various speed and intensity issues.kuk sool won is a korean style made up of several asian martial arts.It has no Hebrew letters or other Jewish religious concepts in its applications.Abir has no stances unlike kuksool.There are no Korean language,historical,national philosophical or religious elements used,borrowed,immitated or mirrored in any shape or form in Abir. Abir practitioners never straighten their limbs and there is no difference between striking or defensive use of the limbs.Kuksool is a grappling art where alot of grabbing an opponent with two hands to manipulate joints and lock them.Kuksool also has flamboyent high kicks,spinning and jumping kicks like hapkido and taekwondo.The Aluf Abir is shown in the photo gallery doing some kuksool moves and flying kicks on the abirwarriorarts.com website so that does add to some confusion.
Abir locks joints without grasping them with the hand so the the Abir fighter's hands are always free to change plans and they never grabb an opponents limb with both hands.Abir is also different since there is never a ''fist'' closed in the manner that most arts employ.Abir is used with hot weaponry by two elte counter terror units in Israel.Krav maga is a term which means contact combat and should not be confused with what is being taught to the public all over the world as kravmaga.Any style or technique that is appropriate for use in the Israel Security Agency(ISA/GSS)or the millitary is or can be adopted by these groups and they are referred to as ''kravmaga'' by virtue of being used or incorporated into the body of techniques already employed by them.Kravmaga in the ISA is not the same kravmaga used in the IDF.
Kuksool is a 'modern' eclectic style martial art that leans toward the classical eastern systems.Once you have seen them both it is very obvious that both systems are very different.The head of the Abir system studied kuksool with its grandmaster and has a 7th dan black belt in that system as well as in hapkido so ppl tend to think that there must be a connection between them.He also studied several other systems.He was trained from the age of three and required to taste other systems to be 'in the know' about them and what their weak points are in order to guide Abir students on how to defend against them.
The Jews of the Hadramaut called ''Habanim'' used this system for generations since (their arrival in that ancient diaspora) biblical time.They were known as fierce warriors and high priced bodyguards for emirs,sultans and tribal chiefs in arabia.Those Jews also have many customs and a pronounciation of ancient Hebrew commonly accepted as the oldest and most authentic among world Jewry.The Yemenite Jews of Haban have for the most part lost their fighting tradition by melting into Israeli society.It is a great thing that Abir is being perpetuated by new generations.I thought you might appreciate this info.Aqiba S. admin@abirwarriorarts.com

Date: 2004-07-29 08:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monomyth.livejournal.com
Очень интересно :)

Date: 2004-07-29 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] viesel.livejournal.com
оно конечно, вламывали как-то Маккавеи Антиоху...
только сомневаюсь я, что вот так

Date: 2004-07-29 09:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hedgy.livejournal.com
;-)))))
Отличная фотография, спасибо :))

haha!

Date: 2004-07-29 09:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-novia.livejournal.com
thi is hillarious!:)
thaanks:)

Date: 2004-07-29 10:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lenabakcheeva.livejournal.com
this has got to be one of the funniest things i've ever seen!

Date: 2004-07-29 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jentl.livejournal.com
Изумительный сайт. Спасибо.

Date: 2004-07-29 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malaya-zemlya.livejournal.com
Есть еще <href="http://www.kravmaga.com/">Крав Мага, но это больше из области уличной драки.

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