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Роберт Фиск - ультралевый журналист, один из самых яростных критиков войны в Афганистане.
Позавчера его жестоко избили афганские беженцы в Пакистане. Он написал об этом статью.

Если кто-то ещё не понимает всей глубины идиотизма ультра-левых либералов, пусть прочтёт эту статью. В ней просматривается всё, как на ладони.

Then someone punched me in the back. Then young men broke my glasses, began smashing stones into my face and head. I couldn't see for the blood pouring down my forehead and swamping my eyes. And even then, I understood. I couldn't blame them for what they were doing. In fact, if I were the Afghan refugees of Kila Abdullah, close to the Afghan-Pakistan border, I would have done just the same to Robert Fisk.

У меня просто нет слов.

And – I realised – there were all the Afghan men and boys who had attacked me who should never have done so but whose brutality was entirely the product of others, of us...

О, как это было бы смешно, когда бы не было так грустно.

P.S. Эндрю Салливан пишет об этой статье: For those who believe that the left-wing intelligentsia is capable of critical thought or even a modification of their ideology in the face of evidence, this incident is a wonderful example of why it won’t happen. They won’t recognize reality, or abandon their racism, or moderate their spectacular condescension to the inhabitants of the developing world – even when reality, literally, crushingly, punches them in the face.

Date: 2001-12-10 09:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avva.livejournal.com
Äà íåò, äåëî âåäü íå â ðàçóìíîñòè/íåðàçóìíîñòè, à â ëè÷íîé îòâåòñòâåííîñòè çà ñâîè ïîñòóïêè. Ïîçèöèÿ Ôèñêà òàêîâà: ÷òî áû íè äåëàë àôãàíåö, âèíîâàòû â ýòîì ÑØÀ. Îí ýòî çàÿâëÿåò ïðÿìûì òåêñòîì ñîáñòâåííî. Âñÿ æåñòîêîñòü òåõ, êòî åãî èçáèâàë, "íàâÿçàíà" èì çëîáíûì èìïåðèàëèñòñêèì Çàïàäîì. Ëþáûå ñàìûå æåñòîêèå è àìîðàëüíûå èõ ïîñòóïêè çàðàíåå îïðàâäàíû, à ëþáîé ïðåäñòàâèòåëü "çàïàäíîé öèâèëèçàöèè" çàðàíåå âî âñ¸ì âèíîâàò.

Re:

Date: 2001-12-10 09:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yasha.livejournal.com
À êòî âèíîâàò? Íàäåëåííûé ñâîáîäîé âûáîðà àôãàíåö?

Date: 2001-12-10 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avva.livejournal.com
Íó óæ òî÷íî íå Ôèñê-òî! Îí âåäü ñàìûé àíòèàìåðèêàíñêèé èç âñåõ ðåïîðò¸ðîâ, â ýòîì è ñîñòîèò ãîðüêàÿ èðîíèÿ.

Date: 2001-12-10 12:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vyastik.livejournal.com
Îí ãðàæäàíèí Áðèòàíèè (èëè Øòàòîâ?), è ýòîãî áåæåíöó äîñòàòî÷íî. Âçãëÿäû Ôèñêà íà íûíåøíèå ïðàâèòåëüñòâà Øòàòîâ è Áðèòàíèè — áåñêîíå÷íî ìàëàÿ âòîðîãî ïîðÿäêà.

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Date: 2001-12-10 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avva.livejournal.com
Øòàòîâ, åñëè íå îøèáàþñü. Íà ñàìîì äåëå, îí ïî-àíãëèéñêè ñ áåæåíöàìè íå ãîâîðèë (à íàîáîðîò, ïîâòîðÿë êàê çàâåäåííûé "ñàëààì àëåéêóì") à àìåðèêàíöà ïî îäåæäå â í¸ì òîæå âðÿä ëè ìîæíî áûëî âû÷èñëèòü, ïîñêîëüêó îí âñ¸ æå ìíîãî ëåò ïðîâ¸ë â Ëèâàíå è êîå-êàê çíàåò, êàê ëó÷øå ñåáÿ âåñòè. Íà ñàìîì äåëå, ñêîðåå âñåãî íåñ÷àñòíûå áåæåíöû-ïóøòóíû (äàæå íå ôàêò, ÷òî îíè; äåðåâíÿ ïàêèñòàíñêàÿ, æèâóò òàì êàê ïðîñòî ïóøòóíû, òàê è íåäàâíèå áåæåíöû - ïîäè ðàçáåðè) ïðîñòî õîòåëè åãî îãðàáèòü. Ñóìêà ó íåãî áûëà, ñ äîêóìåíòàìè è äåíüãàìè.

ß äóìàþ

Date: 2001-12-11 12:58 am (UTC)
stas: (Don't panic!)
From: [personal profile] stas
÷òî ïî ïåðâîìó æå ñàëÿìàëåéêóìó â íåì ìîæíî âû÷èñëèòü àìåðèêàíöà, íå îáðàùàÿñü çà ïîìîùüþ ê ãàäàëêå :)

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Date: 2001-12-10 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yasha.livejournal.com
Äà ÿ ïðî Ôèñêà âîîáùå íå ãîâîðþ. Êòî æå âñå-òàêè âèíîâàò? È ÷òî äåëàòü :)

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