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Jun. 9th, 2011 03:00 am
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В марте 55-го года Набоков переписывался с редактором "Нью-Йоркера" о тех изменениях, которые редактор предлагала внести в текст третьей главы "Пнина". "Нью-Йоркер" опубликовал в середине 50-х четыре главы "Пнина" в виде отдельных рассказов, или зарисовок. В данном письме речь шла о третьей главе; Набоков написал 36 пунктов со своей реакцией на 36 предложенных изменений. Кое-где он согласился с редактором, в других местах настаивал на своем. Одна из реплик мне особенно понравилась:
34. This insertion is impossible. Nothing should be added here. I worked for a month on this passage.

Date: 2011-06-09 12:07 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-06-09 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spamsink.livejournal.com
"I worked for a month on this passage." is a fallacious argument, isn't it?

Date: 2011-06-09 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] niobium0.livejournal.com
нервно.

Date: 2011-06-09 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anatol-olegych.livejournal.com
Interestingly, it is not a fallacious argument. He is not trying to convince an editor that the ms has some overall value. (The editor has already agreed that the work is of enough value to merit publication.) The author is now making a point that whatever issue the editor looked at is not a result of an oversight, but a carefully considered choice.

Date: 2011-06-09 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spamsink.livejournal.com
Compare with "I worked for a month to compute this number". It does not prove that the number is correct, or does it?

Date: 2011-06-09 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dmpogo.livejournal.com
I just wrote something like that to my referee :)

Date: 2011-06-09 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gholam.livejournal.com
On hearing that Miramax co-chairman Harvey Weinstein would try to cut Princess Mononoke to make it more marketable, one of Studio Ghibli's producers sent an authentic katana with a simple message: "No cuts".[ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nausica%C3%A4_of_the_Valley_of_the_Wind_%28film%29#Warriors_of_the_Wind)

Date: 2011-06-09 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anatol-olegych.livejournal.com
You would be perfectly right, were Nabokov trying to publish a mathematical proof ;) But with fiction, it's perfectly fine to say: I considered that carefully and that is exactly how I want that passage to sound.

Date: 2011-06-09 08:22 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-06-09 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sema.livejournal.com
интересно было бы посмотреть на passage, о котором идёт речь

Date: 2011-06-09 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evgeniya-nice.livejournal.com
Надо взять на вооружение, клиенту отвечать: I worked for a month on this code.

Date: 2011-06-09 11:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherez-jopu.livejournal.com
класс)

Date: 2011-06-09 12:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] temp1ar.livejournal.com
Правило 34 =)

Date: 2011-06-09 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avva.livejournal.com
Хахаха, мне даже в голову не пришло :-)))

Date: 2011-06-09 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kblcbka.livejournal.com
А напишите, пожалуйста, где это Вы читаете. Захотелось посмотреть на остальные пункты.

Date: 2011-06-09 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avva.livejournal.com
Nabokov: Selected Letters (1940-1977). Letter to Katharine A. White, March 5, 1955.

Date: 2011-06-09 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kblcbka.livejournal.com
Спасибо большое!

Date: 2011-06-09 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melkore.livejournal.com
а что за пассаж, если не секрет? )

Date: 2011-06-09 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avva.livejournal.com
Я не знаю. Где-то близко к концу 3-й главы, видимо.

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