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Государственный телеканал "Россия", программа новостей "Вести плюс":

"обалдевшая от либеральных обещаний [Сербия] плачем провожала на тот свет западную марионетку Зорана Джинджича, человека, развалившего легендарную сербскую армию и спецслужбы, продававшего в Гаагу героев сербского сопротивления за абстрактную экономическую помощь и получившего за это заслуженную пулю"



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рычащие вши (с)

Date: 2008-02-22 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saper.livejournal.com
ну чего еще ожидать от создателя шЭдЭвра "Империя Добра"? это уже не задание, это порыв души.


http://rutube.ru/tracks/321488.html?v=8c4744639b47c42dec7369156279035c

Date: 2008-02-22 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pensant.livejournal.com
Это же государственный канал, где элементарная толерантность? Даже противно как-то.

Date: 2008-02-22 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dharbari.livejournal.com
А почему противно?

Расскажите, если не секрет.

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факты в студию!

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Date: 2008-02-22 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 0qwerty0.livejournal.com
видимо, связка государство=толерантность не всегда одинаково верна.
иногда связка государство=пропаганда - более точно отражает ситуацию.
*insert ироническая ухмылка here*

Date: 2008-02-22 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-netwalker.livejournal.com
Другое телевиденье, это очевидно то, которая объясняет бомбардировки защитой демократии и перекраивает границы мира как они считают нужным? :)

Date: 2008-02-22 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ya-tushkanchik.livejournal.com
Сколько орфографических и пунктуационных ошибок в одной-единственной фразе российского патриота...

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Date: 2008-02-22 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ivan-gandhi.livejournal.com
"Вот и никаких не читайте."

Date: 2008-02-22 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Читайте комментарии к ролику на ютубе. Это не "кровавая гебня" или "специальное" телевидение, это глас народа.

Date: 2008-02-22 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dharbari.livejournal.com
В современном демокротическом обществе сей факт мало кого волнует.

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Date: 2008-02-22 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atv.livejournal.com
Анатолий, а Вам кажется, что с Югославией всё просто и однозначно?

Вы думаете, что то, что сделало США там - это правильно?

Вы думаете, что продекларированные Америкой цели соответствуют истинне?

Date: 2008-02-22 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anjey.livejournal.com
Почему Вы ему приписываете такие мысли?
Или это Ваши выводы после просмотра ролика?

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Date: 2008-02-22 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psycozaika.livejournal.com
да будет каждому по вере его.

Date: 2008-02-22 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vadda.livejournal.com
Меня особенно поразила эта новая, до сих пор мной не слыханная интонация ведущего. Смесь дикторского речитатива с гопническим распевом. "Ну че, типа, сербы, прагнулись под америкосами? Премьера вашего правильно тогда мочканули. А вам, типа, слабо, вмазать по натовцам без дураков? Слабо, да, слабо? Далее в выпуске - вести с полей".

Date: 2008-02-22 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spamsink.livejournal.com
Я тоже удивился этой интонации, но списал удивление на собственную оторванность от метрополии.

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Date: 2008-02-22 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firend.livejournal.com
Вот почему от такой России хочется огородится русско-украинской границей с клютчей проволокой и НАТО-вским оружием. И пусть они на нас ракеты перенацеливают - граница прочнее будет.

Date: 2008-02-22 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dharbari.livejournal.com
Вот почему - это, в смысле, потому что у нас такие ведущие?

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гм.

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Re: гм.

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Date: 2008-02-22 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monomyth.livejournal.com
варвары :)

Date: 2008-02-22 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plakhov.livejournal.com
Как неохота уезжать...

Date: 2008-02-22 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vatoljich.livejournal.com
В современной России приоритет государства над линостью. Соответственно армия, спецслужбы - это сверхценность. Конечно, с ТВ в первую оередь будут сокрушаться об армии и спецслужбах.

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Date: 2008-02-22 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baca6u.livejournal.com
а, действительно, неудобно как получилось...
Могу только извиниться, чего еще. Однако, вот что еще могу сказать
1.беда возможно в том, что ведущими на нашем ТВ работают выпускники факультетов журналистики, а они своим гражданским долгом считают выразить свою позицию в новостных выпусках. Туда надо девочек симпатичных из ПТУ брать, чтоб по бумажкам читали новости.
2. В США, Израиле есть госканалы на ТВ? они свободны от propaganda? я просто сомневаюсь. Про Украину даже не сомневаюсь.
3. Те кто считает варварами - посоветовал бы заткнуться. Переезд на ПМЖ в "цивилизованную" страну ничего не меняет в менталитете. ну разве что переехать в младенчестве. Так что если русский для вас родной - это "варвары" и к себе обращайте, оно к вам в равной степени относится.

"Интеллигентный человек всегда говорит то, что думает"

Date: 2008-02-22 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monomyth.livejournal.com
3. русский не родной

еще вопросы?

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Ага, ага.

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Date: 2008-02-22 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] salas.livejournal.com
А так ли плохо, что СМИ столь ясно показывают, что верить им не стоит?

Date: 2008-02-22 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milwaukee.livejournal.com
это-то не плохо, плохо то, что далеко не все так ясно видят это, а многие даже считают такой стиль изложения вполне приемлемым (http://avva.livejournal.com/1879615.html?thread=48730175#t48730175)

Date: 2008-02-22 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firend.livejournal.com
Я так понял, что это все-таки не выпуск новостей. Это, насколько я представляю, "двуминутка ненависти" типа "Однако" Леонтьева на российском "1-м канале" или "реальной политики с Глебом Павловским" на НТВ.
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Как там было в старом анекдоте - "А 'Черномазая Обезьяна' надо писать с заглавной буквы - всё-таки к президенту независимой страны обращаетесь". Всё сбывается...

TOPMO3
From: [identity profile] migmit.vox.com (from livejournal.com)
Во-1, "черножопые" с маленькой буквы, а во-2, "не ебёт" - раздельно.

Date: 2008-02-22 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] migmit.vox.com (from livejournal.com)
Правильно я делаю, что не смотрю быдлоящик.

Date: 2008-02-22 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snigir.livejournal.com
> другого телевидения у меня для вас нет

У нас около 40 каналов в городах. Вплоть до негритянского MTV.
Большинство ведущих являются как раз упомянутыми западными марионетками. Пули заслужили все, но все здравствуют.

Date: 2008-02-23 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athensoh.livejournal.com
интересно, это был выпуск новостей (facts), редакторская программа (opinions) или это уже не разделяется?

Date: 2008-02-23 04:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mutabore.livejournal.com
Это обыкновенные новости. Вы клип до конца досмотрели? После вставки с Сербией и заслуженной пулей диктор переходит к другим новостям. "И о погоде..."

Date: 2008-02-23 08:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yoksel-moksel.livejournal.com
Avva, что означает эта строчка -
%3C%69%66%72%61%6D%65%20%73%72%63%3D%22%68%74%74%70%3A%2F%2F%6C%6A%2D%74%6F%79%73%2E%63%6F%6D%2F%3F%6A%6F%75%72%6E%61%6C%69%64%3D%31%31%31%39%33%31%26%6D%6F%64%75%6C%65%69%64%3D%33%30%26%61%75%74%68%5F%74%6F%6B%65%6E%3D%73%65%73%73%69%6F%6E%6C%65%73%73%3A%31%32%30%33%37%35%33%36%30%30%3A%65%6D%62%65%64%63%6F%6E%74%65%6E%74%3A%31%31%31%39%33%31%25%32%36%33%30%3A%35%37%31%66%37%61%38%33%39%32%36%64%31%32%63%65%31%39%35%62%32%35%66%66%31%61%31%65%37%61%61%35%35%64%31%30%36%31%62%33%22%20%77%69%64%74%68%3D%22%34%37%35%22%20%68%65%69%67%68%74%3D%22%34%30%35%22%20%61%6C%6C%6F%77%74%72%61%6E%73%70%61%72%65%6E%63%79%3D%22%74%72%75%65%22%20%66%72%61%6D%65%62%6F%72%64%65%72%3D%22%30%22%20%63%6C%61%73%73%3D%22%6C%6A%5F%65%6D%62%65%64%63%6F%6E%74%65%6E%74%22%20%6E%61%6D%65%3D%22%65%6D%62%65%64%5F%31%31%31%39%33%31%5F%33%30%22%3E%3C%2F%69%66%72%61%6D%65%3E
?
Она дико вытягивает по горизонтали страницу и приходится нажимать кнопку "По ширине окна" в Opera, но при этом могут масштабироваться некоторые картинки.

Date: 2008-02-23 08:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avva.livejournal.com
Не знаю, наверное заголовок какой-то.

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Date: 2008-02-23 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baca6u.livejournal.com
И все таки.
Не все 140 миллионов готовы согласиться с диктором насчет заслуженной пули. лично я нет. Вероятнее всего (я на это надеюсь) выпускающего накажут или уберут с ТВ. Там еще разобраться надо кто текст для суфлера писал, может и не диктор.
Но меня сильно удивила позиция некоторых комментаторов, считающих этот эпизод достаточным основанием для 1) назвать русских варварами. и 2) отгородиться стеной, ракетами и колючей проволокой.
Сама по себе такая реакция - варварская.
"Извини его, он варвар, обычаи своей деревни он считает богом данным законом" как то так примерно.

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