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Date: 2015-06-14 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] motylec.livejournal.com
Треп.

Date: 2015-06-14 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poll59.livejournal.com
Виталий Трепьяков

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Date: 2015-06-14 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] david-2.livejournal.com
Девки спорили на даче,
У кого страна богаче.

Date: 2015-06-14 02:57 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2015-06-14 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] postumia.livejournal.com
И это только "между прочим". Есть еще и какое-то прочее, видимо более существенное.
Реально.

Date: 2015-06-14 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dims12.livejournal.com
Всё-таки я не понял, где он наврал? Ответ "везде" не предлагать :)

Date: 2015-06-14 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myshli.livejournal.com
Ответ в сопоставлении стоимости "земли с домом" на западе и в РФ если хочется абсолютных цифр богатства.

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Date: 2015-06-14 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mr-k-bx.livejournal.com
богатая бензоколонка )

В Америке, даже в городах, много частного сектора, а это тоже землевладение. У моих родителей-пенсионеров, например, никак не входящих в 10-15 процентов богачей, кроме дома в Бруклине (выплаченного) есть еще квартира в многоэтажном кондо на пляже во Флориде (на ипотеке). И множество подобных знакомых (хотя меньше половины, конечно).

Date: 2015-06-14 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avva.livejournal.com
Какие там комментарии у Третьякова, к этой и следующей на эту тему записи! Хочется записывать и цитировать просто полотнами.

"Эх!! Посмотрите сайт "ПРАВДА И МИФЫ РОССИЯ И ЗАРУБЕЖНЫЙ МИР." Там семья французов рассказывает о своей жизни в Париже и многое жругое. Один вопрос, почему вгермании или франции не смывают туалет в течение дня? Это уже не секрет. Поищите ответ."

(пишет Владимир Зотов, бывший префект района Москвы в течение 25 лет, ныне советник мэра Москвы)

Date: 2015-06-14 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malpa.livejournal.com
Интересно, это пишется для тех, кто ни в Германии, ни во Франции никогда не бывал, что ли?

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Date: 2015-06-14 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maxdz.livejournal.com
Думаю, уж у европейцев нe было бы проблем финансово потянуть покупку дачи в России.

Но зачем им такое счастье? :)

Date: 2015-06-21 07:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] Юра Пономарёв (from livejournal.com)
А вот у тебя не хватает и вна Украине. Пичалька

Date: 2015-06-14 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kireev.livejournal.com
В США загородный дом есть даже у меньшего процента городского населения. Кстати, когда я жил в России, то у нашей семьи была дача. Сейчас я живу в США у меня дачи нет. При этом доход моей семьи в долларовом эквиваленте сейчас выше где-то раз в 100, а то и больше. Надо же, а оказывается, я был богаче в России.

Date: 2015-06-14 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mr-k-bx.livejournal.com
захотели, был бы )

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Date: 2015-06-14 03:14 pm (UTC)
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вот дебил...

Date: 2015-06-14 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-herdsman.livejournal.com
Конечно понимаю, что эта тема не для аналитики... Но если серьёзно, в России есть такая особенность - люди гораздо лучше живут, чем об этом можно судить из сухой статистики.
Статистика не учитывает "дачу". "Дача" это не обязательно домик в деревне - это некий загашник жизненного комфорта.

Date: 2015-06-14 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oldboar.livejournal.com
у многих ли жителей Мурманска есть дачи?

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Date: 2015-06-14 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kireev.livejournal.com
Кстати, если считать дачу показателем достатка, то получается, что в 1998-1999 годах россияне жили не хуже, чем сейчас. Тогда приусадебный участок был 57-59% населения http://bd.fom.ru/report/map/t905517

Такой же уровень или даже чуть выше, чем в 2010, 2011 и 2012 годах http://fom.ru/Rabota-i-dom/10432

Кстати, там же есть данные по "Люди-21"-это такая самая "продвинутая" выборка. У них процент такой же. То есть наличие дачи явно не зависит от достатка респондента.
Edited Date: 2015-06-14 03:27 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-06-14 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aintlion.livejournal.com
А у каждого десятого бедуина есть верблюд! Вы представляете сколько стоило бы держать верблюда в Нью Йорке!

Date: 2015-06-14 06:10 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2015-06-14 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poll59.livejournal.com
Кажется, я понимаю о каких семьях он говорил
Он учитывал прежде всего семьи членов дачного кооператива "Озеро"

Date: 2015-06-14 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dodoche.livejournal.com
-Вовочка, что ты плачешь?
-Хочу в СССР!

Date: 2015-06-14 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rrrr.livejournal.com
Он с какой планеты?

Date: 2015-06-14 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] profi.livejournal.com
То, что Виталий Тойвович Третьяков - совершенно безумный мудак, для Вас - открытие?! Как там, на Марсе? :-)
Edited Date: 2015-06-14 03:44 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-06-14 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evocator.livejournal.com
Ну уж Товиевич, наверное. Он еврей, а не эстонец :)

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Date: 2015-06-14 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strannik1.livejournal.com
Из серии, "если Вы такие умные, почему строем не ходите?"
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Date: 2015-06-15 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuliabyk.livejournal.com
Хахаха, очень смешно

Date: 2015-06-14 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e2pii1.livejournal.com
Вспомнилась карикатура в позднесоветской "литературной газете":
алкоголик у пивной вещает 2м другим алкоголикам: "дача и машина мне не нужны - я богат духовно..."

Date: 2015-06-14 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hlebsei.livejournal.com
Мало того...Русские пенсионеры ещё и Крым себе прикупили!

Date: 2015-06-14 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mr-k-bx.livejournal.com
этапять ))

"Прикупили" на мизере???

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Date: 2015-06-14 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marsupian.livejournal.com
В Австралии, в основном, живут в частных домах, с участками. В Америке тоже - одноэтажная Америка.

Date: 2015-06-14 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] h-yuash.livejournal.com
Между прочим, более 50% процентов граждан России живет в многоэтажных домах. В той же Австралии, Америке в основном обитают в одноэтажных домах. Так кто реально умеет строить?

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Date: 2015-06-14 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vinsenty.livejournal.com
"Факультет телевидения"! Это многое объясняет.

Date: 2015-06-14 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nlothik.livejournal.com
65% американцев живут в собственных домах с участками.

Трепло он.

Date: 2015-06-21 07:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] Юра Пономарёв (from livejournal.com)
а тебе видимо не досталось. Пичалька

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Date: 2015-06-14 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yankel.livejournal.com
Срезал!

Date: 2015-06-14 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pessimister.livejournal.com
Хочу быть каждым вторым.

Date: 2015-06-21 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] Юра Пономарёв (from livejournal.com)
хочешь быть, будь
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